Comments on: Ignorant Do-It-Yourselfers & Their SEO Fiascoes: The Real Trouble With Search Engine Optimization http://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/ Small business Search Engine Optimization - SEO audits, keyword research and website design that won't cost you a fortune. Thu, 27 May 2010 03:46:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Alyssonhttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-2/#comment-275 Alysson Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:38:11 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-275 The services provided by agencies vs. freelancers vary widely. For some businesses, going with an agency is the best solution. For others, freelancers are a more cost effective and advantageous solution. Just keep in mind you'll often pay more for SEO agency services simply because of the amount of overhead involved with running an agency. .-= Alysson´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/theseoaly/~3/1LPvQyou5KI/" rel="nofollow">Making Friends & Building Rapport</a> =-. The services provided by agencies vs. freelancers vary widely. For some businesses, going with an agency is the best solution. For others, freelancers are a more cost effective and advantageous solution.

Just keep in mind you’ll often pay more for SEO agency services simply because of the amount of overhead involved with running an agency.
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]]> By: Chrisile from Search Engine Optimisationhttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-2/#comment-274 Chrisile from Search Engine Optimisation Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:53:43 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-274 I wonder where lies the difference between what an SEO Company and SEO freelance do... I wonder where lies the difference between what an SEO Company and SEO freelance do…

]]> By: Alyssonhttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-2/#comment-273 Alysson Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:49:49 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-273 Oh. My. God. I got a little bit sick to my stomach just thinking of the times I've gotten that inquiry. And I, of course, asked, "Whomever developed the site took care of the 301 redirects from old urls to the new ones, right?" Response...crickets. NICE! .-= Alysson´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/theseoaly/~3/HD--nWa4I64/" rel="nofollow">Choosing The Website Audit That Is Best For YOUR Needs</a> =-. Oh. My. God. I got a little bit sick to my stomach just thinking of the times I’ve gotten that inquiry. And I, of course, asked, “Whomever developed the site took care of the 301 redirects from old urls to the new ones, right?” Response…crickets. NICE!
Alysson´s last blog ..Choosing The Website Audit That Is Best For YOUR Needs

]]> By: g1smdhttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-2/#comment-272 g1smd Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:40:16 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-272 Good analysis and write-up. My least favourite job is one like: "We just got our new site online last week, can you do the SEO stuff on it?" The time to start SEO was *before* the new site went live; and one of the first jobs would have been to analyse the URL structure for both the old and new site, and set up the redirects - as well as ensure that you have analytics in place so you can see the effects on traffic before and after the change. Good analysis and write-up.

My least favourite job is one like: “We just got our new site online last week, can you do the SEO stuff on it?”

The time to start SEO was *before* the new site went live; and one of the first jobs would have been to analyse the URL structure for both the old and new site, and set up the redirects – as well as ensure that you have analytics in place so you can see the effects on traffic before and after the change.

]]> By: Alyssonhttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-271 Alysson Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:05:53 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-271 It's important to note that Google has since eliminated the necessity of including date stamps within URLs in order to be included within Google News searches. .-= Alysson´s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/theseoaly/~3/oFQvtxEvljo/" rel="nofollow">Search Engine Optimization Jacksonville - Hometown Scams</a> =-. It’s important to note that Google has since eliminated the necessity of including date stamps within URLs in order to be included within Google News searches.
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]]> By: Richard Vanderhursthttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-2/#comment-270 Richard Vanderhurst Sat, 09 May 2009 11:56:45 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-270 I agree... every business owners should learn even a little bit of SEO so they won't get ripped off. I agree… every business owners should learn even a little bit of SEO so they won’t get ripped off.

]]> By: Alyssonhttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-2/#comment-269 Alysson Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:57:24 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-269 You're right, Malcolm...there wouldn't be much of an industry if we all agreed. I'm glad we can respectfully disagree. :) I've read that SEOmoz article, too - and wasn't completely convinced when they said it either. ;) You’re right, Malcolm…there wouldn’t be much of an industry if we all agreed. I’m glad we can respectfully disagree. :)

I’ve read that SEOmoz article, too – and wasn’t completely convinced when they said it either. ;)

]]> By: malcolmcoleshttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-268 malcolmcoles Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:30:14 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-268 Have to confess I've never gone so far as to test it by flipping URLs from friendly to non-friendly and watching the results (mainly as they'd be too minor to observe realiably). But the main source I was relying on is SEOmoz: http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors#f2 where the consensus seems to be that they affect click through rates but not ranking. I would still 100% definitely use 'SEO friendly URLs' - but for CTR not ranking. Anyway, let's disagree - there wouldn't be an SEO indistry if everyone agreed AND knew everyting! Have to confess I’ve never gone so far as to test it by flipping URLs from friendly to non-friendly and watching the results (mainly as they’d be too minor to observe realiably). But the main source I was relying on is SEOmoz:
http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors#f2
where the consensus seems to be that they affect click through rates but not ranking.

I would still 100% definitely use ‘SEO friendly URLs’ – but for CTR not ranking.

Anyway, let’s disagree – there wouldn’t be an SEO indistry if everyone agreed AND knew everyting!

]]> By: Alyssonhttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Alysson Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:37:27 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-267 I must respectfully disagree with you, Malcolm. Even if the impact of using keywords in a URL is minuscule, based on my experience it exists. Google's SEO Starter Guide seems to confirm my position. While you state in your post that "it doesn't at any point say that keywords in your URLs will help you rank better for those keywords...", it is Google's "SEO guide" - not a guide to improved usability, improving the user's experience or increasing click through rates. That, in and of itself, leads me to believe that keyword usage in a URL is indeed factored into Google's algorithm somehow. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. :) I must respectfully disagree with you, Malcolm. Even if the impact of using keywords in a URL is minuscule, based on my experience it exists.

Google’s SEO Starter Guide seems to confirm my position. While you state in your post that “it doesn’t at any point say that keywords in your URLs will help you rank better for those keywords…”, it is Google’s “SEO guide” – not a guide to improved usability, improving the user’s experience or increasing click through rates. That, in and of itself, leads me to believe that keyword usage in a URL is indeed factored into Google’s algorithm somehow.

I think we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. :)

]]> By: malcolmcoleshttp://www.seoaly.com/real-trouble-with-search-engine-optimization/comment-page-1/#comment-266 malcolmcoles Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:04:47 +0000 http://www.seoaly.com/?p=751#comment-266 My first paragraph is a quote from higher up, sorry if that's not clear. I'm not just having an argument with myself as it might appear ...! My first paragraph is a quote from higher up, sorry if that’s not clear. I’m not just having an argument with myself as it might appear …!

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